Strategy & Tragedy: CEO Stories with Steph Melodia

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• In this week's episode, Stephanie Melodia interviews Kat Thorne, the positive habits queen.

Key Topics Discussed:

• The "untouchable" trap - High performers thinking they're superhuman
• Move your body vs. exercise - The reframing that makes movement more accessible
• The morning phone trap - Why checking emails immediately isn't effective
• Success without sustainability fails - The core message about unsustainable success
• The productivity paradox - How self-care actually improves performance
• The 80/20 self-promise rule - Building self-respect through keeping commitments to yourself

Excerpt of the Conversation:

SM: Kat, welcome to Strategy & Tragedy. You are the queen of positive habits, so I wanna hit the ground running. If you have to choose just one single habit, what would you recommend every entrepreneur listening does straight after this episode?

KT: Move your body. And I was about to say exercise, but I think exercise has a lot of negative connotations. So I would reframe exercise to move your body.

SM: I love how you make it sound more accessible. KT: It has been life changing and transformative.

SM: So, what are some manageable ways to integrate movement into our daily lives without needing a workout regime?

KT: What about if you just did it for ten minutes? The interesting part is that people automatically think ten minutes isn't enough. But compared to no minutes, how good does ten minutes sound?

SM: Once you prove to yourself that you can do it, it becomes more encouraging to do more.

KT: Right! The ripple effect from doing something good for yourself can lead to positive changes in other areas.

Further Discussion:

SM: Let's talk about your origin story. What led to your changes?

KT: In 2016, I had a wake-up call after years of unhealthy habits. My body said no more after a near heart attack. This started my journey to reevaluate my life and adopt positive habits.

SM: What was your shift?

KT: I began waking up at 5AM. At first, I was annoyed, but I realized I had all this extra time.

SM: How can entrepreneurs integrate positive habits sooner?

KT: It requires a mindset shift. It's not about working harder but investing in yourself to improve performance.

SM: And regarding guilt for taking breaks?

KT: You can't push guilt away but recognize it. We should also enjoy this journey.

SM: Time still passes, and life happens. You shouldn't hold yourself back due to your to-do list.

KT: Exactly, waiting to enjoy life until after achieving certain tasks is a mistake. Happiness is an inside job.

SM: What do you think about working smarter, not harder?

KT: It comes down to the thoughts we hold. The belief that harder work equals more success needs reevaluation.

SM: Thank you for this enlightening conversation.**

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